if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. Thanks for posting this. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. },false) Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. I really dislike fat girls. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! kpop problematic carrd! And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. ga('ads.send', { } Another thing is my mental health. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. hitType: 'event', Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. ; _____; aaaa. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. eventAction: 'click_adunit' Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. }); And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. Thats not true. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. For the segment, the three followed outfits . eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! I still like Ryeowook, I wont defend what he did, but Im still his fan. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? Thanks for the reply! #1. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. #AskHwasa. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. They apologized. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. Read more about it here. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. Red Velvet too. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. But that explanation was also not bought by many. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. }); Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. [3] okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. 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